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From Rohan on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Thanks for the comment Satish. It would be excellent to have that data - though unfortunately I don't know anyone who has it either - and I don't think it is the kind of thing that gets reported on - as you probably know Lowy looked at bilateral aid to the Pacific - which has data at the project level. But calculating returns would be a whole other project entirely. But Jono Pryke, Alexandre Dayant or Philippa Brant from Lowy might have some more info.
From Busa Jeremiah Wenogo on For PNG’s sake let’s hope hosting APEC is for the better
While much of the focus on APEC has been centered around the costs associated with hosting the event (and rightfully so); very little has been discussed concerning the issues or agendas that the PNG Government should be championing as the chair. One of the hallmarks of the success of APEC will be the legacy and the immediate impact that PNG can have in advancing important reforms and agendas such as climate change and ensuring an equitable playing field when it comes to trade between Pacific island countries and the big players such as China, US, Canada, Japan and so forth. The tussle between China and US for influence over the Pacific presents PNG with an opportunity to shape the geopolitical landscape in the Asia-Pacific region in the next decade to come.
From Rohan on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Hi Mark - good question - no it doesn't - though according to 2017 IMF Article IV - total government debt (which is what the figures are based on - data taken from the MTFS 2018-2022) - were projected to be 27 053 million Kina, unfunded super liabilities were 2 311 million Kina, and SOE borrowing was 390 million Kina - of which there is no data I've found on how much is owed to China - though if you added both liabilities in to the graph it is likely you would get a smaller % of debt out of the total owed to China as all the super liabilities are domestic - so wouldn't change the story much.
From Rohan on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Hi Sheldon - thanks for the comment. However, commentary from the Lowy Institute suggests that we have likely seen the peak in Chinese lending to the Pacific (except for PNG) -
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/china-makes-inroads-on-pacific-aid-but-australia-remains-the-stalwart-study-finds-20180808-p4zw8b.html
As Matt commented below - we don't make any analysis of project quality, or other geopolitical issues - though we do hope what we have done contributes to the broader discussion.
From Craig Rumints on For PNG’s sake let’s hope hosting APEC is for the better
I couldn't agree me with your assessment and the need for tactful diplomacy from our PM to negotiate for a greater ROI from hosting the APEC.
From Sheldon Chanel on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
It seems authors are making assumptions and far-reaching conclusions based on methodologies and data that are quite limited in scope. Authors say Pacific is 'not drowning in Chinese debt'. They should have added 'for now'. Also, are we only concerned about the 'now'? Good analysis should predict future trends. Data 'strongly suggests that the “debt-trap diplomacy” argument is without foundation'. So nothing to see? Nothing too worry about? No danger of current situation changing for the worse? So many unanswered questions.
From Dr Shailendra Singh on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Thank you for the clarification Matt. So much research, so little time! As we know, debt is not static. The situation can change- for better or worse - in a blink, so hard to pass definite judgements/firm conclusions.
China in the Pacific is a complex, multi-faceted, evolving phenomena not easy to keep abreast of, or fully comprehend.
Your research is helping understand the puzzle better. I look forward to more.
From Matt Dornan on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Hi Shailendra,
Thanks as always for your comments. In this blog, we're solely focused on aggregate debt and the portion owed to China. We don't consider other questions, admittedly also important, such as: the quality of projects for which loans are made (an issue in the Malaysian case, and also in some projects in the Pacific), and the related issue of corruption and impacts on governance. I agree a comparative study would be interesting. Also interesting would be a debt analysis in which PIC debt is contextualised as part of the global trend, which has also (as a result of low interest rates) seen other developing countries increasing their debt. Thanks again. matt
From Satish Chand on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
This is an excellent and long-overdue piece. Thanks Matt and Rohan for putting the debt figures together. Data quality is a perennial problem in the Pacific, but this article allows others to build on the figures provided. I would also like to see rates of return on public investment by source, and issue that requires disaggregated data. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
From Rieko Hayakawa on China in the Pacific: is China engaged in “debt-trap diplomacy”?
Vanuatu Daily Post also posted a similar story - http://dailypost.vu/business/the-debt-trap-myth/article_54428acb-4e7e-5e51-8f3d-8b06586821a4.html
But they also pointed to the citizenship and passport sale scheme for Asia, I assume China. I just found out that Vanuatu citizenship and passport is more attractive as they offer visa free to the EU - http://nomadcapitalist.com/2015/07/15/how-to-get-second-residency-citizenship-in-vanuatu/?fbclid=IwAR2zOJkHHKyuie4VoR6jJ-yZovg8ni4h3hXegKbbS5Aoa_LfE-OuMT51l_Q
From Jemima Garrett on Will ScoMo’s Pacific step up be an aid budget step back?